Monday, December 12, 2011

The price of getting from Vientiane - Hanoi!!

Can anyone help me with an alternative to paying over £100pp for flying from Vientiane - Hanoi one way late January %26#39;09. That was the cheapest flight I could find, and was with Laos Airlines.





Im sure I looked a few months back and it was about £70 and I thought that was outrageous. Especially when you think that the average wage in laos is about £240 a year!





I appreciate that the current financial climate has changed but back in the UK I can get to Spain AND BACK for that amount.





Any help would be appreciated.





The price of getting from Vientiane - Hanoi!!


The airlines keep an international standard, regardless of the national average wage. You%26#39;re going to have to cough up the cash for international flights on Lao Airlines, or you have the much cheaper but time-consuming and sometimes nerve-wracking option of going overland.



I live in Japan and I have to pay, on average, 30% or even %40 more than peopel flying similar or even longer distances to the same destinations I fly. This is due to demand and/or various monopolies companies have in the market. I%26#39;d still opt to fly...

travel from vientiane to siem reap

Can anyone suggest best way and aprox. time it would take to travel overland from Vientaine to Siem Reap? Go via Pakse and into Cambodia or through Thailand/ Woul dit be better to fly and what airline is best? Thanks

travel from vientiane to siem reap

Easy flight with Laos Airlines. Much more comfortable than by road.

travel from vientiane to siem reap

Oh yes, fly. Lao Airlines

http://www.laoairlines.com/

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  • boat trip from Luang Prabang to Huay Xai

    Has anyone done the luxury boat trip which is about $us400 at this time of year ? Is it worth the money ? What about the other boats (NOT speeD boats). Also has anyone recently been to the Gibbon Experience , they seem difficult to contact . What is the best way to get to Luang Nam Tha from Huay Xai ? I hear the bus is a bit of a shocker ?

    Laung Prabang - best time to visit

    Hi All





    What would be the preferable time to visit Luang Prabang June or Late Sept/october.





    cheers





    Laung Prabang - best time to visit


    September is pretty low season, I%26#39;d go then. I was down south on the islands this September and the place was totally devoid of tourists. Quite a change from when I was there in February!



    Laung Prabang - best time to visit


    I would hold off until mid/end of October if I were you. The rainy season is May-start of October - so if you go in June or September you are likely to get caught in the bad weather.





    I was in Laos mid to late October and the rain had pretty much finished, (the odd shower!) Luang Prabang/Vang Vieng etc had some tourists but was far from crowded, so I would recommend a similar time for you.




    It hardly rained at all when I was there in September, and I spent 2 days with really excruciatingly hot and sunny weather in a teeny village 4 hours from Luang Prabang. Gosh, rain would%26#39;ve been nice!The only downside of traveling during rainy season is that there are huge puddles of mud in the villages,



    and some overland travel may be suspended. This year there was massive flooding which put a halt to some of the long-distance bus routes.




    I have been in LP in september, I%26#39;d go then, seems the airline companys like to boost thier prices in June and reduce them again after the first week of september so you%26#39;ll save money there, it is rainy season but when I was there only had a couple wild thunderstorms that knocked out the power to everything but was pretty cool to watch, if you went this year you would have had some flooding in LP, but the airs clean (no burning going on) the mekong is up, weather is pretty good, theres a boatracing festival in september also, and its considered low season, Callao




    as far as the weather goes, I%26#39;d say you can%26#39;t really predict the weather very well at any time of the year as this year was very wet but if you went this week you%26#39;d hit alot of rain (not normal) and in march of last year i was VTE and hit alot of rainy weather (not normal), but in september it was nice with little rain so you can only hope you hit it right, I%26#39;m going next week and hope the weather is good myself, callao




    Hi - yes september would get my vote too - the rainy season should have ended (although not this year....) and you are still before the busiest tourist season of Dec-March. I go to LP every month and prefer Sept-Nov for climate and more space on the footpaths.

    transportation: Siem Reap - Vientiane - LuangPrabang -Hanoi

    Help please!





    What is the most interesting way to travel from Siem Reap to Vientiane? then from Vientiane to Luang Prabang? Then from Luang Prabang to Hanoi? Any ideas?





    Thanks!



    transportation: Siem Reap - Vientiane - LuangPrabang -Hanoi


    There are only a few options: 1) Hire own fast-speed boat on the Mekong and other rivers. Very expensive (about $1000) and very dangerous, or low-speed (several days) for slightly less, maybe around $600. If you like to wager your life you can always take a bus! Cheap, maybe $50 -100 for your itinirerary. 2) Hire cars and drive yourself = you will be lucky to survive! 3) Hire car and driver -- same risk as previous option but very expensive. Bottom line: FLY! Risks with Indochina airlines are considerable but safer than road/river transport. Good luck, you will need it. I have 20 years experience traveling in Indochina.



    transportation: Siem Reap - Vientiane - LuangPrabang -Hanoi


    Ha Ha! The above oomment makes me smile! I have a feeling your 20 years travelling around Indo-China took place some while ago. I live in Laos and travel these routes regularly.





    The information regarding boats is 100% wrong. The Mekong, along all of these routes, is unnavagable. (waterfalls, for a start, pose a large problem to boats!) There are some shorter trips you can that can be travelled and they are nowhere close to the costs mentioned.





    Renting a car - ridiculous f for so many reasons (costs, need to return it from the city you got it from, cannot cross borders without correct permits)





    Flights are possible on all of these routes. Costs, environmental impact and missing the sights are reasons I would avaoid flying if i could.





    Siem Reap - Vientiane. Its a long journey however you travel. There is an overnight VIP coach offered from offices in the centre of Siam reap. It%26#39;s safe, though long and not so exciting. Alternatively, you can travel to Champasak in Laos, then cross to Pakse, then upto Vientiane. Its a nice route. More common perhaps though is crossing back to Thailand and travelling either a) through the Isan or b) into Bangkok and taking the sleeper train to Nong Khai (Border town with Vietiane.





    Vientiane - Luang Prabang. Can be a a little more scary, but is one of the most beautiful bus rides you%26#39;ll ever take. More common is first Vientiane to Vang Vieng. Take a break then continue to LP. VIP and local buses cover this route with lots of buses. If you fly this you are missing out!





    LP to Hanoi - over land is spectacular but a monster journey. Possibly the most interesting journey Ive taken in South East Asia taking in some incredible places (Vieng Xai inparticular). Its a mission, but if you time well worth it. Otherwise you fly this one. You can also go up into China and take a train around. time consuming, but very interesting (and not very well travelled)




    ';Risks with Indochina airlines are considerable.'; they haven%26#39;t been in years! Where are you getting this outdated information from?





    I would certainly fly from Siem Reap to Vientiane and definitely from Vientiane to Luang prabang. The bus trip is not pleasant as the road is very windy. The plane does not fly that high, so you can see a lot of the landscape anyway. If you enjoy 10 hours on a bus, I certainly don%26#39;t.




    I did all these routes almost year ago, but not in the order you wish to travel. I flew each time. Time constraints mostly being the reason. SR to V, probably only flying makes sense. Also, LP to H. But, if you have the time, the bus from V to LP - with stops along the way, especially to Viang Veng - will get you a fabulous insight into the rural beauty of the country and how the Lao people really live. Regarding the airlines. All the guidebooks and other information I had told me, don%26#39;t use Lao Air, and if you do, only fly routes where they use French built ATR 7 aircraft - the newest in their fleet. We still used them, had no other choice - and they switched plane on us to old Chinese ones which rattled and shook, but just cleared the treetops and mountains. That would probably certainly qualify for your %26#39;interesting%26#39; way to travel. I%26#39;m still here to tell the tale, however! (Actually, we found airlines in SE Asia to be way better than the local ones that we encountered in Latin American, surprisingly.) Better airlines in these parts include Vietnam Air, Siem Reap Airways and Bangkok Airways, all of whom cover all or most of these routes. Thai is the best, but also the most expensive. Can%26#39;t help with prices as aviation fuel costs will affect prices today. We never used a %26#39;fast%26#39; boat, but did use a few slow boats for short side trips. Slow is the word, so unless you really have a long time, and travel downstream always, this would be very tedious for these long journeys. The fast boats certainly zip along, but I never met a local who would use one if they could afford one! The roads are a serious challenge, especially across borders - for any number of reasons, including: They get washed away each rainy season, and most are dirt track for much of their route. Accurate road maps don%26#39;t exist.



    Good luck with the travels - a fascinating part of the world to visit.



    SWT





    Laos Trip

    Can any one recommend a tour company in the uk for a two week trip around Laos .



    regards



    akmlg





    Laos Trip


    Does the tour operator have to be in the UK? Why not try a company like this?



    http://www.alllaoservice.com/



    Laos Trip


    I am taking a two week tour of Laos starting next week with a company called Carpe Diem. The tour starts in Bangkok though I believe they will arrange flights from the UK if needed.



    http://www.carpe-diem-travel.com





    Another company that does tours of Laos is Explore, they have a variety of tours either originating in the UK or Bangkok.



    http://www.Explore.co.uk








    Thanx for your very prompt answers ! Any advise on 2 week itinerary - best time of year gratefully accepted . We would love to see as much as poss without going to crazy . Do you think we could see Laos for £2000 per person inc flights from the uk or are we just dreaming . We are getting really excited just reading the forum !!!!



    Again many thanks



    akmlg




    December through March are the dry months, but they start to slash and burn trees at the end of February so there%26#39;s a bit of smoke. It tends to get bad with the smoke in March. Dry season also means a LOT of tourists, so if you pick a month like September, towards the end of rainy season, it will not be so crowded (and it doesn%26#39;t rain every day!).




    You should be able to have a holiday for well under £2000 each.





    You might want to check out Responsible Travel who are agents for a few different companies providing holidays to various far eastern countries including Laos.



    http://www.responsibletravel.com

    Where to visit?

    Im visiting Laos for two weeks in mid January and was just lookng for advice on a rough itinerary from someone who has done the trip in a similar timeframe. I%26#39;m entering overland either through cambodia or vietnam. I realise this is a very broad question so all suggestions are very welcome.

    Thank you,

    Dave.

    Where to visit?

    I suggest you first choose a guidebook, and have a look. (I have the past 2 editions of Lonley Planet, which are pretty good and have decent maps)

    There is really a lot to do in Laos if you have 2 weeks, and a guide can help you plan your route, and you can go at your own pace and select activities that appeal to you. There%26#39;s caving, innertubing, visiting temples, cooking classes, watching gibbons, seeing waterfalls, spending days sleeping in hammocks, trekking- what interests you? Additionally, what is your budget? That will have a big bearing on how you plan/spend your trip.

    Where to visit?

    Dave,

    I agree with maneki. It depends on what you are interested in. Nth, Sth, Luang Prabang. etc etc


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